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Chapter 267 -  Kabuto's Debriefing, Day Two

[Konohagakure — Hokage Tower, Lower Level, October 31st, 9:03 AM]

The debriefing room on the lower level was not designed for comfort. It was designed for clarity — plain walls, a table bolted to the floor, two chairs across from each other with no chair at the head, because seating people at the head of tables implied hierarchy and hierarchy implied the conversation had a predetermined outcome. Hiruzen had insisted on this design twenty years ago and had never found reason to revise it.

Kabuto was already seated when Hiruzen came in. He had asked for green tea and been given it, and he had drunk half the cup, and he had clearly been organizing what he wanted to say because he began before Hiruzen had fully sat down.

"I want to tell you about the last year," Kabuto said. "Not the operations. The last year of being what I was."

Hiruzen settled into his chair. He folded his hands. He waited.

"Orochimaru-sama understood everything," Kabuto said. "That's not an excuse. I know it sounds like one. What I mean is — he was never wrong about the analysis. He read situations correctly. He read people correctly. He read me correctly." He looked at the table. "He knew the Edo Tensei was a moral problem. He told me once, when he was drunk, which he almost never was, that the technique was the one thing he would take back if he could. Not for the victims. For what it meant about him that he'd perfected it."

Hiruzen said: "He told you this."

"I was the only one he told things to. I was — I was the audience for everything he couldn't say to anyone else. That's what I was for, in the end. The smartest person in any room, using me as the room where he could be honest." Kabuto's voice was flat and precise. The voice of a man delivering a report he has organized carefully, because the alternative is not delivering it at all. "He knew the technique was wrong. He used it anyway. Because the alternative was being less powerful than he needed to be, and Orochimaru cannot be less powerful than he needs to be. That's the thing he cannot change. The recognition is there. The change isn't."

Jiraiya, behind the one-way observation window, was completely still.

He thought: he's describing a man who can see the door and cannot walk through it. That's the thing I couldn't figure out. That's why twenty years of chasing hasn't worked — I kept looking for the moment he'd choose differently, and Kabuto is sitting there telling me the choosing is the part that's missing.

"The counter-protocol," Hiruzen said. "Tell me when you decided."

Kabuto thought about it. "Eighteen months ago. We used the technique on a mission in the northern borderlands. Two shinobi — both dead for six years, both people who had clearly been at peace with being dead. They came back fighting. They didn't want to. You could see it, if you knew the technique well enough. The resistance in the movements." He paused. "I told Orochimaru-sama what I'd seen. He said it was an artifact of the sealing matrix, nothing more. I knew it wasn't. I started looking for the flaw that night."

"And Orochimaru never knew."

"No. He would have — he would not have stopped me, which is the thing I kept thinking about. He would have looked at the counter-protocol and said it was interesting work and asked me what I intended to do with it. And then he would have found a way to use the weakness before I could implement the fix, because that's what he does with interesting work. He uses it."

Hiruzen was quiet for a moment.

Shikaku, beside him, had stopped making notes. He was just listening, which for Shikaku was a significant event.

"What do you want," Hiruzen said. Not the question it usually was in these rooms — not the prelude to a sentence. A genuine question, asked to the full answer.

Kabuto looked at his tea. "I want to finish the counter-protocol and give it to Tobirama-sama. Properly. Not a handoff at a memorial stone — a working session, documented, with the full technical context. Because the technique exists and I know it better than anyone alive and Tobirama-sama is the only person who can implement the fix at scale, but he needs what I have to do it."

"And after."

"I don't know yet." The honesty in it was not performed. It was the specific honesty of someone who has spent enough time being precise about everything else that the places where they don't know stand out clearly. "I think I'd like to find out."

Hiruzen looked at him for a long moment.

He thought about a twelve-year-old eating the shells along with the rice. He thought about what it took to arrive at this chair, in this room, and tell the Hokage of the Hidden Leaf Village what you actually wanted.

He thought about the scroll.

Most Likely to Change Their Own Story.

He thought: the ranking hasn't reached Kabuto yet. Maybe it doesn't need to. Maybe some stories change before the scroll has to say so.

"You'll work with Tobirama-sama," Hiruzen said. "Through the Sealing Card. Supervised sessions, documented, full record. Shikaku will coordinate the protocol."

Shikaku: "Yes, Hokage-sama."

"The after is a separate question. We'll come to it."

Kabuto nodded. He picked up his tea and finished it.

After he left, Jiraiya came out from the observation room. He stood in the corridor. He looked at Hiruzen.

"He's not lying," Jiraiya said.

"No," Hiruzen agreed.

"He hasn't been lying since the memorial stone."

"No."

Jiraiya was quiet for a moment. Then he said: "I want to talk to Orochimaru."

The corridor held the sentence for a moment.

"That," Hiruzen said carefully, "is a conversation for another day."

"I know," Jiraiya said. "I'm not asking for today. I'm asking you to know that it's where I'm going." He met the old man's eyes. "Twenty years is long enough to chase. At some point you stop chasing and you walk up to the door and you knock."

Hiruzen looked at him. He thought about thirty years behind the desk. About every door he had not knocked on when he should have.

"I'll think about it," he said.

"That's all I'm asking."

Jiraiya put his hands in his pockets and walked toward the stairs, toward the plaza, toward the scroll burning gold in the morning air above the village he had left and returned to and would leave and return to again, probably, because that was the kind of man he was.

Hiruzen watched him go.

Then he went back to his desk. There was work to do. There was always work to do. And somewhere in the work, if he looked carefully, there was usually also the next right thing.

Today the next right thing was a note to Tobirama, through the Sealing Card, that said: He's ready to talk. When you are.

He wrote it. He sent it. He picked up his pipe.

For the first time in three days, he lit it.

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